Comments on: are performance unions getting weaker? http://blog.audioconnell.com/2008/03/30/are-performance-unions-getting-weaker/ where the worlds of voiceover, marketing and advertising collide! Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:20:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Peter O'Connell http://blog.audioconnell.com/2008/03/30/are-performance-unions-getting-weaker/comment-page-1/#comment-2121 Peter O'Connell Tue, 01 Apr 2008 03:12:23 +0000 http://audioconnell.com/blog/?p=370#comment-2121 SAG (not screen actors guild ;) I agree that nobody wins but the dual members never really have won. They don't need to pay twice for the same service. Merge them together. Dissenters on either side should be given wedgies until they agree! Let us know if you hear any inside scoop. Thanks. Best always, - Peter SAG (not screen actors guild ;)

I agree that nobody wins but the dual members never really have won.

They don’t need to pay twice for the same service. Merge them together. Dissenters on either side should be given wedgies until they agree!

Let us know if you hear any inside scoop. Thanks.

Best always,
- Peter

]]> By: SomeAudioGuy http://blog.audioconnell.com/2008/03/30/are-performance-unions-getting-weaker/comment-page-1/#comment-2120 SomeAudioGuy Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:06:20 +0000 http://audioconnell.com/blog/?p=370#comment-2120 Yeah I've been following this closely. I see this as a power play by AFTRA. If they can undercut SAG's offerings to the table, it's more likely production will want to use more AFTRA contracts. They could be trying to level the field as SAG far and away out earns AFTRA. I'm trying to pin down a close friend of mine who sits on the SAG board for a comment, but they are being understandably tight lipped. I'm also very interested in how AFTRA-reformists like David Sobolov will react to this. It seems to be in the guild's best interest (being more competitive), but I think it'll come at the expensive of AFTRA and dual card holding actors. I think there will always be a need for collective bargaining, guilds, and unions. The market place can't be the only decider or production will have too much power and actors will have too little protection. I just find these recent developments distasteful, and I have to wonder how much farther we can de-value performance before there's any point in keeping the current guilds around. I have more info on my blog (over several posts) about how we've come to this dissolution of Phase One, but I don't wanna go spamming comments. Yeah I’ve been following this closely.
I see this as a power play by AFTRA. If they can undercut SAG’s offerings to the table, it’s more likely production will want to use more AFTRA contracts. They could be trying to level the field as SAG far and away out earns AFTRA.
I’m trying to pin down a close friend of mine who sits on the SAG board for a comment, but they are being understandably tight lipped. I’m also very interested in how AFTRA-reformists like David Sobolov will react to this.
It seems to be in the guild’s best interest (being more competitive), but I think it’ll come at the expensive of AFTRA and dual card holding actors.

I think there will always be a need for collective bargaining, guilds, and unions. The market place can’t be the only decider or production will have too much power and actors will have too little protection. I just find these recent developments distasteful, and I have to wonder how much farther we can de-value performance before there’s any point in keeping the current guilds around.

I have more info on my blog (over several posts) about how we’ve come to this dissolution of Phase One, but I don’t wanna go spamming comments.

]]> By: Peter O'Connell http://blog.audioconnell.com/2008/03/30/are-performance-unions-getting-weaker/comment-page-1/#comment-2119 Peter O'Connell Mon, 31 Mar 2008 03:54:50 +0000 http://audioconnell.com/blog/?p=370#comment-2119 Karridin, Thanks for visiting. Technology has dissolved the status quo, hasn't it? Best always, - Peter Karridin,

Thanks for visiting. Technology has dissolved the status quo, hasn’t it?

Best always,
- Peter

]]> By: Karridin http://blog.audioconnell.com/2008/03/30/are-performance-unions-getting-weaker/comment-page-1/#comment-2118 Karridin Mon, 31 Mar 2008 02:08:17 +0000 http://audioconnell.com/blog/?p=370#comment-2118 There is another dynamic at work here, namely that the ubiquity of the internet BYPASSES the big distribution houses (Warner, Universal, NBC,CBS, ABC) and puts ownership of a 'property' into the hands of the actual creators: writers, filmographers, ACTUAL CREATIVE PEOPLE... This is starting to bite into both the established (read: 'Hollywood') production houses AND the creators' collective guilds, adding to the angst and discomfort all around. Nevertheless, for nimble little mammals, there's a world of stories whispering to be told, and then bought or PPV'd over the Line! Great blog. Ah'll be bock! There is another dynamic at work here, namely that the ubiquity of the internet BYPASSES the big distribution houses (Warner, Universal, NBC,CBS, ABC) and puts ownership of a ‘property’ into the hands of the actual creators: writers, filmographers, ACTUAL CREATIVE PEOPLE…

This is starting to bite into both the established (read: ‘Hollywood’) production houses AND the creators’ collective guilds, adding to the angst and discomfort all around.

Nevertheless, for nimble little mammals, there’s a world of stories whispering to be told, and then bought or PPV’d over the Line!

Great blog. Ah’ll be bock!

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